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Outdoor Moto-X
Well im starting this blog to try and generate so more opinions about what to do about the outdoor schedule. This is my idea that my bro and I came up with. Like anything there is going to be pros and cons. First off i think the outdoor field is to big. You only receive points if you make the top 20, so why are there 40 riders? Not to take anything away from the privateer but there actually more of a liability than anything. Look at the close calls JS had this year with lappers. Canard's season ended because of a lapper. Race day should be ran similar to supercross. Two qualifiers, a last chance and then a main event with only 25 riders. The main event would be a 40 min+ 2 lap race. You have 2 practices on Saturday, one practice Sunday morning, and then its race time. This will also make it easier to televise because then you can show the entire 450 race live. Then the next day you show the 250's. Or you could show both, maybe not live, but it could happen either way. This is a pretty general idea, but ideas have to start somewhere. I'm just a huge fan of motocross and i see all the top riders leaving the outdoors for supercross only and it all seems to stem from the fact that the outdoor schedule is just to time consuming. Racers do have lives and some of them enjoy activities outside of motocross. Some of them even have families. Obviously something has to be done. There has to be some common ground between the promoters, sponsors, riders and the AMA that can make this happen. Otherwise the sport of motocross, which is different than Supercross, will die because all the top riders will eventually quit racing outdoors. To me that just isnt acceptable.
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Posted on December 10, 2008 05:26 PM
thats an interesting idea. i agree with you that racers have lives outside of racing and they should have the freedom to live that life. i dont know how i feel about cutting the mx field in half...but maybe change the point system or something. there was a blog about supercross only contracts and there was a guy that suggested that in order to win the championship you have to ride mx AND sx. thats an idea. i think you have an excellent idea...so lets see in a few days what other people have to say about it!
Posted on December 10, 2008 05:26 PM
I can see racers wanting a life,but really racing is a pretty good one!They have to show up to work on the weekends and they have 4 months off.Now i know how it all works with pre season testing and riding ,training etc etc,but really does all of that actually take up 8 hours 5 days a week? They set their own schedules and have a fair amount of free time.With the money being earned by the Factory boys they should have to ride both series and the outdoors should not change that drastically.Anyone who has a regular job has to show up 5 days a week 8 hrs a day with a couple weeks holidays a year and the majority sure don't make the money that the top pros make.
I don't think changing the format to a 25 rider main would be that great outdoor mx is alive because of the privateers,and i think that running it like supercross would eliminate the hard working guys who are trying to "make it".There were some great battles down in the field all year long.Sure there are always a couple of riders that may be a liability out there,but there are in any sport and for the most part everyone on the gate for a nat is pretty frigin fast.Maybee some more schedule changes or some changes to practice-qaulifying to speed things up but 2 30min motos is outdoor mx.If guys are going to take sx only deals then it should come at a price say 1/2 pay plain and simple.I would give up my left nut for a 1/3 of what the top guys are making and their schedule including all of the training,testing etc.......just my 2cents
Posted on December 10, 2008 05:26 PM
you have some good points,EXCEPT one stood out,that priveteers and lappers are a liability...DUDE even the badasses have gotten lapped at some point in their pro careers.....
Posted on December 10, 2008 05:26 PM
You have some really good points and them some terrible ideas. Yes something needs to be done about the schedule, sponsers etc. The juice has to be worth the squeez and right now supercross pays out a lot more. 40 min + 2 laps is ridiculus. 30 min + 2 laps is almost too long especially when its 90 degrees outside. Priviateers are what make this sport exciting and what this sport has that no other professional sport has. In the sport of motocross, if your good enough you make it to the main regardless of who you know and whos ass you kiss. To get rid of that would be like getting rid of the heart of motocross. I would love to see the top gus ride motocross, but if they dont WHO CARES. It gives the privateers and other pros a chance to step up and get noticed and hopefully get a factory ride themselves. Motocross needs to be more atractive then supercross for the riders and right now its not even close.
Posted on December 10, 2008 05:26 PM
Well it looks like I was able to get the ball rolling. Thats exactly what I wanted. All of you have great ideas and opinions. Let me just add a few more comments. First off dscott back in the day the used to ride 2 40 min motos. The euros used to ride 45 min motos! I was suggesting maybe only one 40 min+2 lap MAIN EVENT similar to supercross. These riders are some of the most fit athletes in the world and temperature has nothing to do with it. Do you want me to feel sorry for them cause they have to ride in the heat? Hell no im not, thats what makes outdoor moto-x outdoor moto-x. Flapper your right, every rider who lines up at a national is extremly fast, but why are the guys finishing outside the top 20 always finishing outside the top 20? Its not like i dont want to see them try but they dont have near the support or the bikes to get up front. Its the same thing in supercross except most of those guys who are midpack at a national, cant even make the night ride at a supercross. How many "privateers" make the main in a supercross? As far as the point system goes, if you only have 25 riders they all get points. The first place rider gets 25 points, 2nd gets 24, third gets 23 until the guy who takes last gets a single point. I am liking the idea of combining the 2 championships into one, forcing everyone to ride both series. FBZ your also right, factory guys have been lapped, but not because they weren't hauling ass. RC used to lap up to 2nd even when JS was there. When you see James lapping some one its isnt like there trying not to get lapped. They move over and let him go. By the end of the moto most of them are gassed and are not even trying any more. I applaud them for trying and would love to see a real privateer out front, but thats not going to happen. Well im done for know lets see how much reaction i get from this! LoL!
Posted on December 10, 2008 05:26 PM
Everyone wants mx to grow but i don't think that making the schedule a 1moto 25man gate would do this,i think it would actually hurt.The way it is now in supercross it has become so narly and difficult to make a main that there are really not the entries that there used to be.The new point advancement is a good idea because of the dangers in sx and all.I think if mx went to this smaller format it would deter guys from competing because the chances of making the show would now become even smaller,bringing the number of entries down even further.With the cost of the sport getting higher as it is why make itseem even tougher?The appeal of mx is that it is still one of the cheaper forms of motorized competition availlable and you get a couple of chances for your money,i dont think mx needs to become the nascar of two wheels where the average racer thinks that their chance of making the big time are pretty much non existant.The guys finishing in the top 20 are still the guys who want to finish higher but not everyone can run top ten in their first or second year these are the backbone of oour sport.
Posted on December 10, 2008 05:26 PM
I have to totally disagree with your idea of cutting the field because lappers are a liability. Those lappers are what keeps motocross going. In order for a sport to grow, it needs participants. So you basically want to tell the guys finishing outside the top 20 and the other guys that didn't make the gate to just stay home? How would we help our sport by limiting the number of riders who can compete? That would ruin motocross.
Posted on December 10, 2008 05:26 PM
Also, I'm pretty sure that James, Trey Canard, RC, RV... These guys have been lapped at some point. Maybe a million races ago but still. What if they had been told to stay home.
Posted on December 10, 2008 05:26 PM
ya dude when your talking about there shouldn't be the lappers, what about that race RC lapped the field with no lappers he would have been the only one on the gate
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